since joe and i got macs, OSU hasn't lost a football game and won a national championship, and the browns made the playoffs.
[jacob@bron-yr-aur jacob]$ ping caiman.local. PING caiman.local (192.168.0.42) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=50.6 ms 64 bytes from caiman.local (192.168.0.42): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=3.12 ms
hmm some glibc debugging later, and it works. good thing i had that glibc build with debugging symbols around.